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in "The Craft of the Japanese sword" it states that traditionally a Japanese smith would light there forge by hammering on a bar of steel until the internal friction heated it to a red heat then...

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The idea sounds far-fetched, but I know a 17-year-old guy with a lot of energy who loves to hammer and forge who could test it out for us. If he thought traditional Japanese smiths did it that way...

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Local smithing myths tell of hard-hitting smiths igniting paper/cardboard by smiting'em mightily on the anvil. Hahahhh.... I ain't never smote anything on fire on any of my anvils, hahahhh..... I may...

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I have seen it done. You hammer down the end of a rod to a tiny point and it will turn red hot. Try bending a wire back and forth a few times and it will get hot enough to burn to burn your skin.Andy

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I'd like to see someone do that, too. I know it doesn't take much twisting to get a wire hot; is the key keeping the point very small? I'll have to ask the aforementioned young smith to work that out...

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Ok manyskins, we want details How big was the rod? How long did it take? cheers fdiddler

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Manyskins, I can see something like having a thinnish rod, with the point JUST outside the anvil, and then bearing down with the hammer (mightily).I figure the point should be kept free of the anvil...

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I did not see the begining of the proccess so I don't have a defanant time frame but it could take that long. The guy used a 1/2 or maybe 3/4 square bar and put a sharp point on it by hitting it and...

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Definitely something to try out as soon as I get my forge u and running again.Smallish taps towards the "end"? Maybe to avoid deforming the "glow" end too much.Good project, thanx!Infy

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